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Contents 1 Largest WPs by listed participants? 2 Project tags on the talk pages of redirects 3 Category counter 4 WP:BIO/N 5 New Wikiproject 6 Project banner template? 7 Clarence Darrow 8 WikiProject:Article 9 Regarding Wikiprojects 10 Are projects beneficial? 11 Input needed 12 History of WikiProject 13 {{PageStatus}} 14 How does one 15 WikiProject Prehistoric 16 Veropedia WikiProject Certification 17 Project Managers 18 Wikiproject tags that are charitably described as "extremely tenuous" 19 User:JpGrB/WikiProject Psychopathic Records 20 WikiProject banners in multiple namespaces 21 Naming convention proposal 22 ? 23 How do you join a WikiProject? 24 Reference library category 25 Buckethead task force 26 Proposal re:talk page templates 27 Vital articles project 28 How to contact other WikiProjects 29 WikiProject - Article 30 Ernest Hemingway project? 31 Disputed projects? 32 Task force creation (merging inactive wikiprojects to their parent wikiproject as task forces). 33 Should Wikiprojects be able to discuss deletion topics 34 GA Reassessment of Maria Rasputin 35 WikiProject Policies applied to other Projects

[edit] Largest WPs by listed participants?

Is this info tracked anywhere? I just joined MILHIST which has ~600 which seems much larger than the other ones I'm currently in. BrokenSphere^{Msg me} 01:01, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Is that very accurate though? I've seen a lot of projects with a reasonable list of participants with no actual activity. Richard001 11:48, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

That would be even harder to track, which is why the roster would have to suffice for these purposes. BrokenSphere^{Msg me} 14:49, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

I'm not sure if it could be done - it would be hard to make a bot that could work out such information, so someone doing it manually is probably the only option. Perhaps we should have a yearly census and clean out of members who have long been inactive? Richard001 07:22, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

Actually, I got SatyrBot to do it :) It goes through the projects listed at Wikipedia:WikiProject_Council/Directory. Then it finds out if there's a /members or /participants page. Then it counts the number of links to user-space, which it defines as the number of members of the project.

It's not perfect. For instance, the biggest issue is that if there's an "inactive members" section on the page, it doesn't know how to subtract those. And if anyone (who isn't a member) signs the page, it counts them as a member. But as a rough estimate, it works.

Current numbers for the largest 20 projects:

You can see it in action by going to http://www.radiantweb.net/ian/WikiProjectTop20.php -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 15:07, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

That is very cool; is this info put anywhere for interest/historical purposes or did you just run it now? :)

The thing with clearing out inactive members is that you would have to check each member's record and determine when their last contributions were to a particular WP, and what if an article falls within the scope of multiple? I don't know about you, but it seems like a thankless task do to do this for likely hundreds of listed participants. BrokenSphere^{Msg me} 17:48, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

It's easy enough to do for a small list with popups, though a bot would be necessary for something like those above. Richard001 00:15, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

Does this count categories? Such as Category:WikiProject Anime and manga participants. -- Ned Scott 21:36, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Project tags on the talk pages of redirects

What should be done to the talk page of a redirected article that contains one or more project tags? Should the tags remain or should they be removed (blanked, redirected, or deleted). Essentially, the question is whether redirects should appear in the various WikiProject X articles categories. – Black Falcon ^(Talk) 20:37, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

I'd remove them, but maybe place a category on the article to catch all the redirects under a given WikiProject. Keeping track of redirects can also be an important task for a project. I guess you could keep the banner on them and have a redirect= parameter, though.. hmm.. -- Ned Scott 21:33, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

I don't know of any project tags that have a "redirect=" parameter; however, I think I found a suitable solution: "class=NA", which places the talk page into Category:Non-article Comics pages. I don't believe that all project banners support a "class=NA" parameter, but this one does. – Black Falcon ^(Talk) 22:01, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

There's also the redirect project, which seems to be tagging everything. Richard001 08:35, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Category counter

At the request of Longhair I've set up a bot to count the number of articles in the Wikiproject Australia related categories and put that information on a Wikipedia page. This bot uses the database on the Toolserver and runs daily. Since I received a comment about it being useful for other Wikiprojects I'm mentioning it here. Information about using it is available at User:Erwin85/CatCount. --Erwin85 20:19, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Example: Wikipedia:WikiProject Australia/BotStatistics/Sports. --Erwin85 20:37, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WP:BIO/N

There is an ongoing discussion over on WP:BIO that you guys might be interested in. It is a proposal to establish a relationship between the guidelines of BIO/N and the various notability criteria different projects create. The most recent proposal can be found here.Balloonman (talk) 23:20, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] New Wikiproject

Wikipedia:Wikiproject free music - if anyone is interested. Raul654 (talk) 17:17, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Project banner template?

Is there a template for the project banners? It looks like they are either being subst'd or copy/pasted. I'd like to have a better understanding of their markup. Ham Pastrami (talk) 19:11, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Clarence Darrow

I think he should be added to Wiki Project Michigan because of Ossian Sweet murder trials. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 23:15, 18 March 2008 (UTC)Stan

[edit] WikiProject:Article

Relationship to the Company

Company Name: Pacific West Foods Sdn Bhd
Relationship: Staff
Serving Years: 3
Nature of Company: Frozen Foods

• User: Colorgun23/New Article

--Colorgun23 (talk) 02:18, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Regarding Wikiprojects

Hi, as a newbie to Wikiprojects, could someone tell me what is generally expected of a member of a Wikiproject? What is the criteria for being entered into one? Is there an application process or removal process? Sorry for my ignorance :-). Thanks, GlobeGores (talk page | user page) 22:20, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

There are no criteria, generally it's nice if you do some editing in that topic but there is no such requirement for joining, just add your name to their list or add the userbox to your userpage or both, whatever the particular project page says to do. Generally, you cannot be required to jump through any hoops to join nor can you be kicked out of a project, short of being banned by the community. If you need any further help with anything let me know on my talk page.--Doug.^{(talk • contribs)} 20:24, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Are projects beneficial?

I have wondered how many projects are a net benefit to Wikipedia. Every so often I find my watchlist filled with articles that have been tagged as in the scope of some project, or assessed as being low-importance start-class, and this makes it difficult to watch for actual changes. I also noticed the chaos caused by WikiProject Museums. A lot of effort seems to go into all this administration, more than what seems to go into improving the articles. I had recently thought that projects may have a use for fixing articles that I am not confident to fix myself – after receiving no response on an article talk page I have escalated my concerns to a project talk page. This worked with WikiProject Football and WikiProject Mathematics, but my recent post at WikiProject Computer science has had no response, even though that project has over 100 participants. JonH (talk) 13:40, 5 April 2008 (UTC) updated 15:38 (UTC)

Some projects are obviously more functional than others; the quality tends to vary quite widely. ;-) Kirill 19:15, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Input needed

Hi! Could someone look here and write something about it? The problem is that one editor insists that putting that article within the scope of WikiProject Serbia 'sounds bad' and 'is continuation of Serbian aggression' (sic). Alæxis_¿question? 18:24, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] History of WikiProject

I am still relatively new as a wikipedian, after searching through appropriate information regarding wikipedia's structure, polices, guidelines etc etc etc... I have ended up here searching for an answer to a particular question, I have not yet received the answer and this is the place I should think I would find it.

My question is: What is the history behind WikiProject?

Why I ask this question: WikiProject is not a namespace and I have seen nothing to give it an official status so why is it so widely used & how did it come about?

Why I think that answer should be here: wikipedia has articles to explain stuff, I wanted to visit the article that explains stuff about WikiProject's, Hence I type WikiProject in the search bar it redirects me to Wikipedia:WikiProject project page which doesn't answer my question.

This leads me to another question: Why does WikiProject come under the Wikipedia namespace if its not information about Wikipedia or its sister projects ref.

Answers to my question:

1. Create an article that contains the answers to my question.
2. Create a History section on this project page.
3. If the answer is already available or the logic/reasoning I have used is invalid then redirect me to the answer or answer it here.Kevin hipwell (talk) 07:22, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] {{PageStatus}}

I would like to advertise the new template {{PageStatus}}, which makes WikiProject lists of articles easier to manage. Some WikiProjects may find it quite useful! --Aquillyne-- (talk) 20:26, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] How does one

Start a Wikiproject? --Jupiter Optimus Maximus (talk) 12:11, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject Prehistoric

Can I create a WikiProject about Prehistoric Animals (excluding dinosaurs), you know, those animals are erroroneously sometimes called dinosaurs; Dimetrodon, Pterosaurs, Wooly Mammoth etc.? --PrehistoricManiac08 (talk) 22:44, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Veropedia WikiProject Certification

For more information, see Wikipedia:Veropedia WikiProject Certification. MessedRocker (talk) 01:54, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Project Managers

After looking at several smaller project pages, it seems to me that a section/comment stating a primary point of contact (POC) would be very useful. Sometimes it's hard to tell who's running the show, or who's trying to be a primary manager. So a Project Manager position might be a useful addition with a generic or specific userbox. --THE FOUNDERS INTENT ^TALK 15:45, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Agreed. The MCB Project has a coordinator, and it's been a very good thing to have somebody to actually to the organizing that might not get done otherwise. – Clockwork Soul 12:34, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Wikiproject tags that are charitably described as "extremely tenuous"

I find many of these wikiproject tags in articles that relate to the subject project in only the remotest of possible fashions, if not being wholly ridiculous in asserting that the article is within the project scope. Is there any good reason not to just delete these absurd tags? CAVincent (talk) 22:43, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

I have found this to be the case as well. This is especially true for articles that have achieved GA or FA status. Some wikiprojects like to include as many as possible just to boost their project numbers. They'll crow that they've had X number of articles promoted to GA or FA status, when in reality, nobody in the wikiproject has had any significant hand in editing the pages at all. I say, be bold and eliminate the banners. Kinston eagle (talk) 02:23, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

• Yes, inappropriate tags may be removed. Colonel Warden (talk) 09:37, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

[edit] User:JpGrB/WikiProject Psychopathic Records

Is this accceptable? I've never seen a WikiProject in userspace before. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP)} 22:11, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

Well if it's active it should be allowed to stand. Seems a bit weird having it in userspace, but what's the problem? Totnesmartin (talk) 17:57, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject banners in multiple namespaces

Please see the ongoing discussion regarding the use of WikiProject banners on the talk pages of non-article pages. Thanks, – Black Falcon ^(Talk) 23:11, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Naming convention proposal

Please see the naming convention proposal. LA (T) @ 21:51, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

[edit] ?

Are only admin allowed to make projects? Because I would like to make a Wikiproject about Maplestory.

Negabandit86 (talk) 21:47, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

[edit] How do you join a WikiProject?

How do you join an existing Wikiproject? I'm now to Wikipedia and I don't know what a WikiProject is. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Æåm Fætsøn (talk • contribs) 07:39, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

WikiProjects will normally have a list of members. You add yourself to that list, and ideally begin editing on relevant articles or join the project's review system, or what not. JonCatalán^(Talk) 20:48, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Reference library category

In order to help facilitate easier location of potential sources of offline information to help verify the notability of article subjects and contents, I have created Category:WikiProject reference libraries and placed into it all of the reference library pages of which I am aware. Please add more project reference libraries to this category if you know of more. Additionally, feel free to create new reference library pages for any particular project as well. They can be very useful. ···日本穣^{? · Talk to Nihonjoe} 20:06, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Buckethead task force

WP:BH wants to expand into a real WikiProject and maybe include additional related artists in the future. See WT:BH for discussion. Any input welcomed!

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Happy new Headcheese!-hexaChord² 02:22, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Proposal re:talk page templates

I often tag the talk pages of stubs or other articles needing work with the relevant project templates. The templates don't have well-standardized names; I have to dig through the project pages themselves, which are all arranged in different ways, to find the template I need. It would be nice if all the template names were listed in the charts on the project category pages, as projects should want to encourage even non-members to help them find articles that fall into their scope. I'm bring this up to get consensus before I start adding the templates names to the charts, and to request some help doing so if there is a consensus. — Swpb^{τ • c} 18:00, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

Personally, I think that the name should be up to each project. However, it would be good to create a standardized set of redirects so that they are always easy to find. -Drilnoth (talk) 22:01, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Vital articles project

I didn't see a better place to put this, but is there a project which covers all of the Vital Articles? I didn't see any. Thanks! -Drilnoth (talk) 22:00, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

[edit] How to contact other WikiProjects

I've been working on WP:WikiProject Orphanage, and have completed a toolserver report that lists orphaned articles belonging to a specific project. The question is, what mechanism is there for me to make other WikiProjects aware of it? Is there a bot that can place a message on each WikiProject's talk page? Thanks, --JaGa ^talk 02:37, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject - Article

Company Name: AMAX Information Technologies
Relationship: Staff
Nature of Company: Computer Industry
Draft Article: User: Amaxhelen/AMAX Information Technologies
Comments: Would like someone in the staff/project to review the article and make any suggestions to keep it at neutral point of view and not trying to self-advertise.
Amaxhelen (talk) 21:27, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Ernest Hemingway project?

I am interested in starting am Ernest Hemingway project to improve content related to his life and works. Is there anything like this already going on. Would that be ok to do? kilbad (talk) 21:30, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Disputed projects?

What do we do when editors disagree as to whether an article should fall under a given wikiproject? Blueboar (talk) 16:10, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

There are two ways to interpret your statement. So I'll just say that there are many articles that belong to more than one wikiproject, and I've also seen articles added to wikiprojects for the most trivial of reasons. I'd just go ahead and add the disputed wikiproject. — RJH (talk) 20:10, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Task force creation (merging inactive wikiprojects to their parent wikiproject as task forces).

Was browsing around and I stumbled upon this: [1]. Should I (or anyone else for that matter) bother to get those inactive wikiprojects under their parent project? E.g. merge wikiproject Montreal as a task force to wikiproject Canada? What I am trying to get at is: Should there be an effort to place those wikiprojects that seem to be inactive, place them under a larger viewership so perhaps they become more active and hence develop more productivity? There of course needs to be a consideration of whether this will do any difference (hence why I am posting here to get some feedback on what people generally think). Furthermore what is considered inactive? Just because there is no activity in the projects talk page, does that mean the project itself is inactive? Etc...

Any and all thoughts are welcome.Calaka (talk) 11:42, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

The Video Games Wikiproject has been doing just that for over a year now. WP:VG/IPC have a set method of notifying inactive/low participation projects, pointing out the benefits of becoming a task force under WP:VG and allaying the fears of users who's may feel they are being down-graded. It might be worth contacting them for their observations. - X201 (talk) 09:27, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

That is a very nice setup! Would make more sense to do multiple mergers rather than just one and I am sure there would be many cases of this. I noticed WP:MED has done a similar task force page to cater for all the other projects. Thanks for the link. Calaka (talk) 03:25, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

Just saw this [2], although not sure how watched the talk page is over there?Calaka (talk) 11:44, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Should Wikiprojects be able to discuss deletion topics

Should Wikiprojects be able to discuss deletion topics? 18:16, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

Should wikiprojects be able to discuss:

1. Articles for deletion
2. Templates for deletion
3. Miscellaneous for deletion and
4. Wikipedia:Deletion review

Within their topic area? Ikip (talk) 17:51, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

• Yes Of course. Why should they not? We're all here as volunteers doing what we can to improve Wikipedia. If being a member of an interest-specific project allows me to be better informed about the project's needs in order to assist in my own contributions, why would I not be able to discuss or input at AfD, TfD, MfD, or DRV when those discussions might have direct relationship to my work? Is it being suggested that one must be forced to quit a project in order to then offer an opinion about a subject to which he/she wishes to contribute?? Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 21:51, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

• Yes Projects routinely have lists for such issues in my experience and so this is accepted practise. Deletion discussion often lack editors with good knowledge of the topic and many discussions stall for lack of participation. Publicity in relevant areas is therefore helpful. Colonel Warden (talk) 09:39, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

• Yes Absolutely. That is one of the main functions of the Projects.--2008Olympian^chitchat 07:10, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

[edit] GA Reassessment of Maria Rasputin

This is to notify the concerned projects that as part of the GA Sweeps the article, Maria Rasputin has been reassessed and found to need some work to maintain its GA status. The reassessment can be found here. Any questions or concerns can be posted on my talk page. H1nkles (talk) 04:19, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject Policies applied to other Projects

Some editors tend to apply policies or guidelines developed in and for one project to other projects or to the subjects of other projects, often with disregard for the difference in topic and organization of the projects and sometimes somewhat forcefully (I'm not speaking of the thoughtful adaptation of one projects guideline to another projects needs). For example, the literal adaptation of WP:FILMPLOT to music topics which would fall under MOS:MUSIC, though they are quite different mediums. This seems highly inappropriate and that there should be a guideline or policy against this. Any help, thoughts, suggestions? Is there a policy or guideline against this some random place I haven't looked? Hyacinth (talk) 22:40, 4 July 2009 (UTC)