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The logistics department is a clearing house, where editor skills and resources can be matched to article needs. The aim is to make the path to featured article status easier by listing the specialist resources editors may need to call on to improve their articles.
The department provides assistance in several areas:
- Administrators (for help with sysop requests or general advice)
- Copy-editing (including Manual of Style compliance and comprehensive stylistic editing for featured article candidates)
- Graphics (including maps, diagrams, and charts)
- Linguistics (including simple translation and help with sourcing in a wide variety of languages)
- Personal libraries (links to editors' lists of personal book holdings)
- Photography (including clean-up and retouching, help with fair use rationales, and new images)
- Sources (including verification of journal articles)
[edit] Administrators
The project has a number of members who are administrators. Those listed below are happy to carry out any admin-specific tasks that are requested. If informal dispute resolution is needed then the project coordinators are also available. If an admin (or coordinator) has been particularly helpful, consider awarding {{subst:The da Vinci Barnstar|message ~~~~}}
[edit] Copy-editing
- For a DIY approach, see How to copy-edit
All articles can be improved by copy-editing in one form or another. An uninvolved editor looking at text with fresh eyes will see things that need fixing which the familiar editor won’t. Different articles benefit from different levels of copy-editing. Before requesting a copy-edit, decide which of the following levels is most appropriate.
- Copy-edit lite: basic proof-reading, spellchecking, punctuation.
- English variant conversion: for example, from American English to British English, or vice versa.
- Naturalising: copy-edit for editors whose English is not perfect.
- FAC prose copy-edit: flow, structure, elegance.
- FAC technical copy-edit: MoS-compliance for dashes, hard spaces, numbers, measurement conversion.
As a thank you for good copy-editing input, nominators could consider awarding the Copy-editor's barnstar. {{subst:The Copyeditor's Barnstar|message ~~~~}}
Instructions:
- To sign up as a copy-editor, just add your name to the copy-editors list below and add the request page to your watchlist. Please provide an indication of the level of copy-editing you provide.
- To request a copy-edit, either contact one of the copy-editors direct on their talk page or list your request at the bottom of the Requests for copy-editing section below.
[edit] Copy-editors
The following editors will help with copy-edits.
- Abeer.ag (talk) (Levels 1–3, just a beginner at MoS )
- Amishjedi (talk) (Levels 1,3,4, a little of 5. Sort of new with MoS )
- AnnaFrance (talk) (Levels 1–5; RL copyeditor, new to WP, sleep w/MoS :-))
- Backslash Forwardslash (talk) (1-3)
- Bellhalla (talk) (Levels 1–5)
- Chamal_N (talk) (1-3, still not very familiar with MOS)
- Climie.ca (talk) (3-5)
- Dhatfield (talk) (1-4)
- Eleland (talk)
- Glubbdrubb (talk) (1,4)
- Hargrimm (talk) (1-3)
- Hcberkowitz (talk) (Mostly level 1-3; I'm not a MOS expert.)
- jackyd101 (talk) (Level 1-4, some 5)
- jason97m (talk) (1-3)
- Kumioko (talk) (Mostly level 1-3 but could be higher depending on the article)
- Lazulilasher (talk) 1,2,3 some 4
- Maralia (talk) (Primarily levels 4–5)
- Mm40 (talk) (Levels 1 through 4, some 5 as well)
- Patton123 (talk) (Levels 1-5, know MOS well)
- RC-0722 (talk) (1, 2, 4, maybe 5)
- Roger Davies (talk) (4 and 5)
- SGGH (talk) (Levels 1-4)
- SoLando (talk) (Usually L 1 to 3)
- The Founders Intent (talk) (Level 1 & some Level 4)
- the_ed17 (talk) (One and five/good with MoS)
- twelsht (talk) (Levels 1, 2, and 4)
- UnknownForEver (talk) (Level 1-4)
- YellowMonkey (talk) (All, I guess)
- Please add your name in alphabetical order above this line.
[edit] Requests for copy-editing
- Open tasks
Comments on, and help correcting, prose and MoS-issues would be appreciated at:
- Kaiser class battleship • 7th Infantry Division (United States) • List of foreign recipients of the Knight's Cross • British Army during World War I • History of the United Kingdom during World War I
- Featured article candidates:
- Unification of Germany • Ba Cut • Helgoland class battleship • Siward, Earl of Northumbria • Maiden Castle, Dorset • Battle of Corydon • Albert Kesselring
- Specific copy-editing requests
- Please list the article for copy-editing here (at the bottom), mentioning the type of copy edit sought. Please sign the request with ~~~~.
- Copy-editors: when accepting an article for copy-editing, please add a comment
#: Copy-editing ~~~~ under the article listing. When the copy-edit is complete, strike through the article name with <s> ... </s>.
- Cold War - this article just failed an FAC mainly because of its prose. A thorough level-4 copy-edit is needed in my opinion. --Eurocopter (talk) 10:59, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
- Horatio Nelson, 1st Viscount Nelson - a thorough going over in preparation for advancing up to FA-class (preferably in time for a main page appearance by 23 September) would be good. I can handle the content, but an overhaul is definitely needed! Benea (talk) 18:03, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
- Thomas Hines - I expect this to be a GA, and a future FA, but its been recommended that this receives a serious copyedit, so a 4 or 5 please.--King Bedford I Seek his grace 20:14, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
- North Yemen Civil War - This article is currently going through a peer review, and it has been suggested that I ask for help here. I'm not sure exactly what level of copyediting is needed. Thanks. -- Nudve (talk) 05:11, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
- Anglo-Zanzibar War - Article has passed at GA with a recommendation for a copyedit before taking it further. I have looked over it a few times but can't make much more headway with it at the moment. Any help is appreciated, I would love this article to be FA eventually. Cheers - Dumelow (talk) 20:24, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
- Please look over the edits I have made. In my opinion this well written, comprehensive, engaging and well referenced article should be nominated for A / Featured class. If there are further requests for copyediting at that stage I'll be happy to make another pass but I think the prose is good as it stands. Dhatfield (talk) 03:36, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
- Thankyou very much, your improvements are much appreciated. I have just come into possession of a map of the action and will create my own version based on it, once that it does I will take it to FA. In the meantime I'll have a crack at A class. Cheers - Dumelow (talk) 11:15, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
- United States Naval Gunfire Support Debate - Level 5 copyedit. Sorry for not posting sooner, but I assumed that becuase this was originally part of an FA and spun out just recently it would be in top condition. TomStar81 (Talk) 03:25, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
- 2008 Nord-Kivu war - as much copy editing as is humanly possible. :P There's a lot of information to keep updated, and the layout is a bit lackluster; this would be a great article with a nice copyedit. Master of Puppets Call me MoP! :D 23:52, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
- National War Memorial (South Australia) - In preparation for another shot at FAC, needs a different set of eyes. Should be fairly close, but I may be wrong. :) - Bilby (talk) 04:33, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
- Polish culture during World War II - A-class article, failed FAC due to complains about prose. I am a non-native English speaker, so I cannot help address this concern :( Help needed! --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 01:18, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
- Polish Underground State - per above, copyediting need for B-class --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 04:00, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
- History of the United Kingdom during World War I its been identified during the A Class review that the article could do with a good copy edit, our intention is to try for FA so a level 4 copy edit would be required if possible. Thanks --Jim Sweeney (talk) 14:45, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
- British Army during World War I it has been mentioned during the A class review that the article could use a copy edit and help appreciated --Jim Sweeney (talk) 08:34, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
- Add new requests above this line
[edit] Graphics
Graphics add color and interest to most articles. Maps are often the single most useful addition to a military history article. They can show the deployment of forces and the lie of the land with a clarity and brevity unmatched by a description alone. Diagrams can often serve the same function. Coats-of-arms, and similar, can add color to an otherwise monochrome page. Here are some useful sources for maps:
More extensive resource lists for particular topics are maintained by the corresponding task forces.
Sometimes, no suitable graphic exists and one needs to be drawn. At other times, an existing map or diagram can be modified or tailored to suit the needs of a particular article.
The simplest solutions is to search available images in the net and link to them as long as we have no solution of sufficient quality or accuracy in commons. So, if an image is available online, but cannot be uploaded to Wikipedia, it may be appropriate to use {{externalimage}} to provide a direct link to the image and a (referenced) description of what the image depicts.
For a thank you for graphic help, consider awarding {{subst:The Graphic Designer's Barnstar|message ~~~~}}
Instructions:
- To offer help, just add your name to the graphics editors list below. Please say whether you prefer to just modify existing material or can design material from scratch.
- To request help, either contact one of the editors direct on their talk page or list your request in the requests for graphics section.
[edit] Graphics editors
- The following editors can help with modifying or creating graphics. Freehand illustrators who work on paper and can scan their illustration for uploading to Commons are also welcome. Please say whether you can create maps.
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- Please add your name above this line.
[edit] Requests for graphics
- Please explain what you are looking for, mentioning the article name, or the name of the graphic that you'd like modified, and sign the request with ~~~~.
- Graphic editors: when accepting a request, please add a comment
#: Accepted. ~~~~ under the listing. When the graphic is complete, strike through the request with <s> ... </s>.
- La_Grande_Armée#Portraits this is really a general request for someone with better skills then mine to clean up the images in the gallery and resize them so they all appear roughly similar in size. I suspect one or two images are too small, and if that is the case, please advize me and I will try to source a replacement image.--mrg3105 (comms) ♠♥♦♣ 06:52, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
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- I recommend Graphics Lab, or the photo retouch section lower down. This is a retouch thang, not a graphic thang. Dhatfield (talk) 17:28, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
- Does anyone know how to do graphical timelines? Need eight of them to start with. Cheers and thank you in advance for contacting me--mrg3105 (comms) ♠♥♦♣ 00:48, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
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- the map used on Operation Totalize is in need of some reworking. Firstly, the colour scheme should probably be changed to match those of the maps used in Battle of Verrieres Ridge. Second, the legend needs to be changed to say "Allied attacks" rather than "British attacks". Notes on the image can be found here. Cheers! Cam (Chat) 23:41, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
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- I definitely recommend posting a request at the Graphics Lab for this - it'll probably be done really quickly and well there. Dhatfield (talk) 17:28, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Offers for teaching how to work on graphics
Please insert here offers for teaching others how to work on graphics.
[edit] Become an image restorationist
Boston, 1775: British tactical map complete with cannon deployment details.
Here's an offer for Milhist members who have an interest in images. I've located a large cache of period military maps in high resolution digital files. There's enough to cover nearly every major battle of the American Revolution and Civil War, plus a smattering of world history. This is highly encyclopedic material and it's more than I can restore alone. Want to start collecting featured picture credits? Fire up your image processing software and contact me; I'll train you. (It's been suggested that I post this here). DurovaCharge! 10:12, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Obtain online images under suitable licences
I can teach you how to search for images in the web(different search engines and settings) and how to write letters for acquiring these images under suitable licences for wikipedia. Wandalstouring (talk) 12:53, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Linguistics
- Requests for translations can be addressed to Wikipedia:Translation
The aim is to provide foreign language support to editors researching articles. In addition to broadening the information available, it can help avoid reflecting the Anglosphere point of view that can sometimes come from reporting a subject exclusively from English-language sources. Examples include:
- Providing translations of short sections from non-English sources into English;
- Providing translations of photograph captions;
- Providing the gist of non-English articles for evaluation as a possible source;
- Helping with foreign language searches for non-English sources for later translation.
As a thank you for help with language problems, consider awarding {{subst:The Rosetta Barnstar|message ~~~~}}
Instructions:
- To provide language support, just add your name to the linguists list below. Please provide a list of the languages you speak.
- To request language support, either contact the linguist on their talk page or list your request at the bottom of the requests for language support section below.
[edit] Linguists
The following editors can provide non-English language support.
- Amire80 (talk) (Fluent in English, Hebrew and Russian; You can also try me in Latin, Lithuanian, Ukrainian, Belarusian, Catalan and Italian)
- Boris_Barowski (talk) (Dutch->English, please leave a message at my talk page)
- Buckshot06 (talk) (French)
- Carom (talk) (Can translate from German and, to a lesser extent, from Spanish)
- Catalan (talk) (Native Spanish)
- Cla68 (talk) (Spanish into English)
- Climie.ca (talk) (mid-level Spanish, bits of Latin)
- Dreamafter (talk) (French, a bit of German, and Latin {not that that one is used a lot :P})
- Kyriakos (talk) (Greek)
- LordAmeth (talk) (advanced, but not native or fluent Japanese & Spanish)
- MoRsE (talk) (Can translate from Swedish, Finnish, German, Norwegian, Danish - to lesser extents also Russian, Spanish and French)
- OhanaUnited (talk) (Chinese, please leave a message at my talk page)
- Piotrus (talk) (Polish, please consider contacting WP:PWNB as well)
- Roger Davies (talk) (French)
- Tartarus (talk) (French and basic German)
- Trekphiler (talk) (very rudimentary German, French, Spanish, & Latin; I could maybe tell you if it's worth a closer look...)
- Wandalstouring (talk) (German and French)
- YellowMonkey (talk) (Viet -> en)
- Please add your name in alphabetical order above this line, listing the languages you can help with.
[edit] Requests for language support
- Please list the request below, with a summary of languiawarticle for copy-editing here, mentioning the type of copy edit sought. Please sign the request with ~~~~.
- Linguists: when accepting a request, please add a comment
#: Dealing ... ~~~~ under the article listing. When the request is complete, strike through the article name with <s> ... </s>.
USS Orizaba (ID-1536) One online source for this article is in Portuguese, and I'd like to make sure that information cited from that source was interpreted correctly. (I used a Google translation when working on the article.) — Bellhalla (talk) 22:12, 8 March 2008 (UTC)- There are a couple of good diagrams in a dialect of German, http://bar.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bild:EuropaNATOWP1959.png, and http://bar.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bild:EuropaNATOWP1973.png, that I'd like translated to be incorporated on the NATO page. Could I ask our German translating troops to first translate the German text? Regards, Buckshot06(prof) 03:54, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
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- And where would you like the translated version to go (I mean just the text.) TARTARUS talk 15:32, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
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[edit] Personal libraries
- See also: Wikipedia:WikiProject Resource Exchange and its list of Shared Resources.
This section is for linking to lists of personal book holdings in individual editors' user space. It is useful for checking or sourcing citations. Please mention the main areas covered for speed of reference. Consider also adding useful links to the "Resources" section of any relevant task forces.
- AshLin (talk) User:AshLin/Archive Library: History of Indian Army Engineers and some on Indian Army. These are with the (Indian Army) Corps of Engineers archive of which I am the curator.
- AtTheAbyss (talk) Library: Mostly World War II, but other areas as well.
- Bedford (talk) Library Miscellaneous; a lot of War of Northern Aggression
- Catalan (talk) Library: Multiple eras and topics of history
- Charles Edward (talk) (Personal Library) I have a large personal library with about three thousand volumes.
- Cla68 (talk) Library: World War II, primarily the Pacific War theater
- Climie.ca (talk) Library: World War I, World War II, Canadian Military History - I also have unrestricted access to the libraries at Mount Royal College and the University of Calgary, and frequently raid their history sections.
- Commander Zulu (talk) Library: British/Imperial/Commonwealth Firearms, WWI/WWII Firearms (All Nations), Colonial History. (Under Expansion)
- Gwinva (talk) Library: Middle Ages, Napoleonic Wars
- Harlsbottom (talk) User:Harlsbottom/Library: Very Large Great War and environs Royal Naval History Library; Confidential Books (C.B.s), books, articles. Other subjects as well.
- Marksdaly (talk) Library: American Civil War.
- MBK004 (talk) Library: Maritime history (To be expanded)
- MisterBee1966 (talk) Library: Aviation, World War II history (To be expanded)
- Nick-D (talk) Library: Biased towards World War II, naval history and Australian military history
- Parsecboy (talk) Library: Naval history, some WWI, a few others.
- Roger Davies (talk) Book list: Crusades, Ottoman Empire, American Civil War, World War One, Spanish Civil War, Vietnam and Indo-China. (To be expanded)
- Skinny87 (talk) Library: Concentrates on Airborne Warfare and a few WWII books
- the_ed17 (talk) (Library)....mainly maritime history, with war and RMS Titanic; a few odds and ends though.
- TREKphiler hit me ♠ Usefool sources: Multiple eras & topics, heavy on WW2 (more to come)
- Wandalstouring (talk) medieval and classical warfare and archaeology
- Wild Wolf (talk) Library: Mostly American Civil War, also a few WWII and American Revolutionary War
- Please add your name and link in alphabetical order above this line.
Have a few listed here. Every topic imaginable, working on expanding it.
[edit] Photography
- The Graphic Lab can retouch photographs.
Good use of photography can immeasurably improve an article. Frequently, a good suitable image already exists on Wikimedia Commons and can be used as is. Sometimes, this is not the case. This section will help you if
- an existing Commons photograph needs cropping, cleaning up, or otherwise modifying;
- an existing suitable Commons photograph doesn't yet exist and it needs to be sourced, and uploaded, with an appropriate copyright notice or free use rationale;
- or existing suitable Commons photograph doesn't yet exist and needs taking specially.
As a thank you for help with photographic problems, consider awarding {{subst:The Photographer's Barnstar|message ~~~~}}
Instructions:
- If you can help with photographic images, add your name to the list in the photography editors section. Please mention what skills you can provide ("retouching", "clean up", "sourcing images", "fair use rationale" etc).
- To ask for assistance, either contact one of the editors direct on their talk page or list your request in the requests for for clean up and repair or requests for new photos sections below.
[edit] Photography editors
The following editors will help with photography. Please summarise the skills you can provide.
- Bellhalla (talk) (I can help with photo cleanup and repair)
- Maralia (talk) (photo repair and cleanup)
- Hohum (talk) (Removing noise, colour balancing)
- Please add your name above this line.
[edit] Requests for clean up and repair
This section is requesting help with modifying or cleaning up photographs that already exist on Commons.
- Please explain what you are looking for, including the image filename, and sign the request with ~~~~.
- Photographic editors: when accepting a request, please add a comment #: Accepted. ~~~~ under the listing. When the work is complete, strike through the request with <s> ... </s>.
Image:Ussmissouriplaque.jpg — requesting that the photo be straightened up (its tilted at the moment), and if at all possible that the glare across the bronze and glass plaque be removed/reduced. Thanks. TomStar81 (Talk) 22:30, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
- I've had a go at it. Have a look at these:
- Hope these are helpful. — Bellhalla (talk) 11:57, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
{{Military-Insignia}} is deprecated. There are still about 70 images using it. They need to be migrated to more specific licenses and then Military-Insignia should be deleted to prevent reuse. MBisanz talk 03:09, 12 April 2008 (UTC)Image:Leaving Fort Bliss.JPG The image is tilted, and I would like to see the tilt removed. Thanks in advance
- commons:Image:Leaving Fort Bliss detilt1.jpg. Woody (talk) 00:53, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
- Image:BattleOfShanghaiBaby.gif - request the image be cleaned up if at all possible; among other things, the image has scratches that I would like to see fixed. It may also need to be reuploaded in a different format.
- Image:BattleOfShanghaiBaby retouched.jpg — Bellhalla (talk) 18:55, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
Image:Paul H. Kreibohm original.jpg. Any chance of someone taking a stab at a better restoration than my poor-to-fair attempt, at Image:Paul H. Kreibohm retouched.jpg. Thanks. — Bellhalla (talk) 18:24, 23 May 2008 (UTC)- Add new requests above this line
[edit] Request help with copyright and fair use rationale
This section is requesting help with copyright issues and for dealing with difficulties in supplying fair use rationales. The image may already exist on Commons or be an image you are thinking of uploading.
- Please summarise the problem, including the image filename if the image is already on Commons.
- When accepting a request, please add a comment
#: Accepted. ~~~~ under the listing. When the work is complete, strike through the request with <s> ... </s>.
- Could someone supply the right tag for Image:5sqncrest.jpg? There's a clear clearance for the image from the NZ Government site it was uploaded at, but I cannot find the correct tag. Buckshot06(prof) 09:16, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Requests for new photos
If you are looking for an out-of-copyright image (for example, "General Pétain at Verdun"), list it here. If you are looking for a highly specific image (for example, a photograph of the cannon on the ramparts at Essaouira, Morocco) try asking first on the talk page of the appropriate wikiproject (in this case, Morocco) before requesting it here. Sign the request with ~~~~.
- Photographic editors: when accepting a request, please add a comment
#: Accepted. ~~~~ under the listing. When the work is complete, strike through the request with <s> ... </s>.
- Add new requests above this line
[edit] Sources
The purpose here is to help provide high quality sources for articles. This sub-department is particularly useful for more specialist or obscure subjects. As a thank you for help with sources, consider awarding {{subst:The Citation Barnstar|message ~~~~}}
- See also
Further information: JSTORJSTOR is a database containing articles from academic journals on a vast range of subjects, which can be searched easily either using Google or the JSTOR search engine. For non-subscribers, the results contain a JSTOR summary page containing the reference details, together with (typically) the first page of the article. The following editors can help with JSTOR articles. You should contact them directly on their talk pages.
[edit] Other available editor resources
- Askari Mark (talk) (Has online access to Jane’s All the World’s Aircraft (JAWA), Jane’s World Air Forces (JWAF), Jane’s Defence Weekly (JDW), and Scramble database. Also has access to most annual issues of IISS’ World Military Balance back through the mid-1980s, as well as several years of Air Force Magazine.)
- Buckshot06 (talk) (current subscriber to Jane's Defence Weekly, also holds many issues of IISS Military Balance, including most recent few (like '08 edition), and Jane's Fighting Ships, 99-00 edition, plus many many articles and resources on post-Soviet military of last fifteen years)
- Carom (talk) (Access to other electronic databases (including the History Cooperative) that allow access to recent issues of periodicals that may be unavailable in JSTOR due to the moving wall.)
- Climie.ca (talk) (Legion Magazine subscriber, Contact me if you need assistance. All books listed in my Libary. I can find refs for just about anything for the First & Second World Wars)
- David Underdown (talk), I'm in The National Archives most days ;), so I should be able to check out anything that's in the library there, online catalogue here, plus all the thigns available to UK local library subscribers: ODNB, Britannica, various OUP pubs which are in Oxford Reference Online. A few other things via Athens access and identity management, including The Times digital archives (Gale Infotrac version)
- Dreamafter (talk) (Access to the AAAS magazine if required.)
- Harlsbottom (talk) (JSTOR, Project Muse, Times Digital Archive, All the books and articles listed in my Library, which is naval history-orientated.)
- MBK004 (talk) (as well as JSTOR, I have access to a few other online databases, and my maritime-warfare library (I'll finish populating the list eventually))
- Mrg3105 (talk) (Research materials available from the RUSI NSW branch and Sydney Defence Library - please allow 2 weeks for processing research requests)
- Nick Dowling (talk) (Has access to Jane's Fighting Ships and Jane's World Air Forces.)
- Raul654 (talk) - My university has great library resources. I have free web access to many publications, including every new york times, wall street journal, and chicago defender article ever written. (For those, I go to [1] and then use my university proxy). I also have my own personal library (which is heavily slanted towards WWII and later). I can also get pdf scans of any articles they don't have in stock via the interlibrary loan. Raul654 (talk) 20:12, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
- SGGH (talk) (as well as JSTOR above I have access to the Times Newspaper online archives, and dozens and dozens of other sources which are too numerous to list here, all during term time only, try me.)
- Wandalstouring (talk) (Projekt Dyabola, international archaeological database)
- YellowMonkey (talk) (Access to "Journal of Southeast Asian Studies" and "Southeast Asia Research" for plundering military related articles)
[edit] Requests for sources
- Please add requests for sources here, mentioning the article name/s. When the material has been sourced, please strike through the request with
<s> ... </s>.
- Up to date information about the units and formations of the Turkish Army (difficult, I know) Buckshot06 (talk) 04:10, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
- (Copied from M.E. Task Force:) Mattar's biography of the Great Mufti; In his biography of the Mufti, Philip Mattar writes (Page 149) : "The four cases of political violence in 1920, 1921, 1929, and 1933 were not revolts, (...) They were localized spontaneous riots that resulted in no sustained (...)" : I get this from google.books but cannot get more. Would someone have his book ? (maybe p.17 ?) Could you give me more information about what he writes exactly ? I also read that Mattar writes that the Mufti was not accused of any involvment by Palin Commission. This should be in that book. Could someone check ? Thank you User:Ceedjee (talk) 21:36, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
- Does anyone have access to this website? ~ Cheers! Dreamy § 02:18, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
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