Talk:Professional sports
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This article is WAY' to oriented towards British/European sports. Sorry folks, but NOT EVERYONE IS EUROPEAN. Somebody please add in some American sports, like Baseball, Basketball, American Footbal..... -Gamingboy
- Seems more Austocentric to me 206.11.112.251 19:54, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
- If people want more sports in here ... put them in then? People usually contribute what they know or have an interest in.Boomshanka
this article is seriously lacking... seriously eurocentric also. Volleyball, Track & Field, arent even in the list. I was looking for sportsmanship and it linked here. This doesn't link there. The Criticism part II is heavily not NPOV. Dwarf Kirlston 19:03, 10 Mar 2005 (UTC)
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- Lacking Cycling as well. It has it's own long tradition of professionalism. But at the moment the entire article is more or less a non-comprehensive list of sports where professionals exist. I miss a general discussion of the aspects of professionalism in sports. Sorry, for only complaining and not helping out myself. jzeller 22:28, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
- I'm not sure what this article is designed to achieve ... comparisons between amateurism and professionalism? historical development? Maybe a clearer definition needs to be provided ...Boomshanka
- Lacking Cycling as well. It has it's own long tradition of professionalism. But at the moment the entire article is more or less a non-comprehensive list of sports where professionals exist. I miss a general discussion of the aspects of professionalism in sports. Sorry, for only complaining and not helping out myself. jzeller 22:28, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
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[edit] Article title
Per Wikipedia:Naming conventions, article titles should be singular, so this article should be moved to Professional sport. This applies equally to most other articles ending in "sports" (though not "List of ..."). Hairy Dude 17:50, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Woah
This article needs a lot of work, including defining what the article itself is trying to achieve. Is it a list of professional sports (would be a long list)? Information about historical roots of professionalism in each sport? The intricacies and logistics of money in each sport/events eg sportsperson sponsorship at olympics... Maybe a table of top/average salarys per sport would be beneficial to see what sorta money we're talking about. Any ideas?
[edit] Global perspectives task force
As other editors have mentioned, this article needs a lot of work. At the most basic level, a number of major professional sports are not listed. Improvement of this article falls under the global perspectives task force of the project on countering systemic bias, so I am going to try to start some expansion along those lines. Would love some help from anyone interested in making this article more comprehensive! Thanks. --Mackabean 01:43, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Reason for criticism
Various reasons are listed, including Horse racing, Boxing, Wrestling, and Blood sports without any explanation why they are reasons for criticism. In fact I don't understand why sports like boxing is one of the criticisms. May anyone add the reasons if they are really some criticisms? Salt 07:19, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
- I removed the whole criticism section.. No sources were provided for any of it and the section just listed various sports as criticisms.. Why? I don't feel that section as it was written belongs in this article. Spanneraol 22:05, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
Where is the NFL??? Its the biggest money pro sport in the world.
- I belive thats Football (soccer)
[edit] It's too simple
Reading the section on the evolution of pay-for-performance athletics, one would think that Sit mens sana in corpore sano was a slogan of class-superiority, surmise that pay-for-performance athletics ($600,000 per year for a corporate suite in Yankee Stadium) is about doing away with class barriers, and wrongly conclude that pay-for-performance athletics was created in the 20th Century. The development of paid athletics, like the development of mass entertainment (or mass politics) is not a simple tale of capitalism breaking down archaic class distinctions in the name of opportunity for all. The "Sports Salaries" section suggests something of a contradiction in that regard. One doesn't really challenge the class system by selecting a few individuals who aren't in the upper class and making them into millionaires.
There are good arguments against the present system of paid sport which are unacknowledged. One of them is that Sit mens sana in corpore sano is actually a good way of life, and that the focus of youth athletics -- and people's perception of athletics -- should not be directed almost entirely into supporting (mostly at the taxpayer's expense) school-based recruitment systems for a billion-dollar sports industry. Another is that localized amateur athletics, continued well beyond one's last year of high school, promotes the development of individual relationships tied to the communities in which people live and work (the enemy, one might argue, of pseudo-democratic mass culture).
I appreciate the author's interest in history and the socio-political implications of athletics, which is not something immediately thought of in connection with pay-for-performance athletics. In that way, the author's introduction to the development of the modern system of paid athletics is insightful. But the author should revisit this section, if only to qualify the flat and simple claims made here.
