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[edit] Obama Pic

I don't know who the POV protector is, but how is a picture of a person who is mentioned in the article not notable?--Jojhutton (talk) 00:37, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

He's barely even mentioned in the article, the article is not about him, he isn't even a real example of a Cult of Personality. Are we going to have an irrelevant picture of every goddamn thing mentioned in the article? Push your PoV elsewhere. -R. fiend (talk) 01:29, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
Your attitude is unappreciated, your reversions are unappreciated, and your accusations are completly without merit. You have revealed yourself fully. Your protection of the picture is baseless. You have never come up with a good reason to revert. I don't care for the way you carry yourself. I have no time to waste on editors who won't even discuss before reverting. Your tactless reversions have been noted. Good day.--Jojhutton (talk) 01:41, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
Let me guess, you added Reagan just to see if I'd remove a picture of a Republican as well as that of a Democrat. Well, I will. The inclusion of any of these figures is very tenuous and shaky at best, trying to use them as illustrations of something they have so little to do with is detrimental to the article. Pictures and illustrations in articles should have strong, direct connections with the subject, otherwise we're just littering articles with images, often creating the illusion of a real connection that isn't there. I'm not really convinced any of these Presidents belong, as they're not very well sourced, and peripherally connected, but I won't remove them without significant discussion. The pictures, on the other hand, add nothing. -R. fiend (talk) 02:24, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
You can guess all you want. As usual you are way off base. You have been outed as a POV protector.--Jojhutton (talk) 02:49, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

Barack Obama's name doest last 24 hours on this article... By deleting his name you are proving he belongs here. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.128.57.169 (talk) 21:07, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

How long does Ronald Reagen's name last in here? Same amount of time, so shut it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.56.22.80 (talk) 14:38, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

People. One final time. This is my final polite warning ... there will not be another.

My personal and political opinions do not belong on Wikipedia ... and neither do yours.

You will either conduct yourselves to the level of a Wikipedian, or you will leave. How it is done is up to you. Our goal is to remain neutral. Period.

Please ask yourselves if you truly wish to remain here. It's long past time for all of us ... myself included ... to put our attitudes away, as they do not belong here either. --Dr. Entropy (talk) 00:07, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Obama is without doubt one of the biggest cult of personality in all the times. Even this last two weeks the newsweek have thir editors saying that obama is like god, and that he is our professor and stands above all countries, and this is only a small bit. How is that not cult. Not gonna mention heś various pictures with thorn crown or the statue as Jesus on the top of a donkey.

see the newsweek:

also in the mainstream news sites:

or search on google news for :obama god

As the lack of replies based of the references above I believe all agree in including Obama in this article. Right? Echofloripa (talk) 14:04, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Hello, Echofloripa. I appreciate your comments and I do agree with them. I myself do believe that a CoP appears to have formed around President Obama. However, as stated earlier, opinion isn't enough. Let me state that again, opinion isn't enough. To get it included, there needs to be consensus, and that's just not there. It would also need verifiable sources and a neutral point of view. I'd edit it myself to add the section, but HTML and I do not get along. If there were some way to muck the page up and make it totally unreadable, I'd find it. Probably without trying.

Hope that helps! - Happy Trails!--Dr. Entropy (talk) 00:23, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] 3O

There are much better substantiated and less-controversial examples like Kim Il-sung, Stalin, Idi Amin, and Fidel Castro that can be used instead. Let's sheath the partisan knives and get back to writing NPOV articles. Madcoverboy (talk) 05:26, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia as an example

This is notable. Googling "cult of personality" and Jimbo Wales gave over 3,000 hits, more than Ferdinand Marcos, Juan Peron, and Eva Peron combined. There are multiple references, and WP:IDONTLIKEIT is not a reason to omit.My cat's breath smells like catfood (talk) 03:47, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

Google hits don't get us anywhere. Find some good sources for it and we can include it. But note that we don't include every individual who's been charged with having a cult of personalility. The burden of proof rests with the editor adding the material.   Will Beback  talk  00:10, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
It also seems stupid to single him out when I'm sure there are a plethora of non-political examples out there who would meet whatever criteria exactly Jimbo would. It's also unnecessarily self-referential; we'd only be mentioning it because we're Wikipedia and it deals with us. We should ask ourselves whether we'd include the founder of another encyclopedia, or whether another encyclopedia would mention this in their Cult of Personality article. If the answer is no, it would appear we'd be mentioning Wikipedia for Wikipedia's sake, and I suspect the answer to both would be no. -R. fiend (talk) 14:48, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
lololol —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4EV1 (talk • contribs) 09:51, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Theory of religion

The article could maybe mention the notion found in the theory of religion that many archaic religions began as early personality cults. ADM (talk) 06:21, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

[edit] FERDINAND MARCOS TOTALITARIAN?

WHAT ABOUT THE CURRENT PHILIPPINE PRESIDENT! WHY SHE DID NOT QUALIFY?

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